Guest Episode
January 27, 2025

Josh Waitzkin: The Art of Learning & Living Life

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In this episode, my guest is Josh Waitzkin, former child chess prodigy and the subject of the movie and true story Searching for Bobby Fischer. Josh is also a world champion martial arts competitor and the author of the book The Art of Learning. We discuss Josh’s childhood as a chess prodigy and how he learned to train and compete at the highest levels by facing his fears and overcoming points of weakness. He explains the principles that unify disparate physical and mental pursuits and how understanding the interconnectedness of the learning process enables ultra-high-level performance across disciplines.

We explore how to structure one’s day to tap into the most creative, generative, and unique capabilities. Josh shares his approach to learning, including how to address flaws and mistakes and how to harness the subtle and overt energies of the learning and peak performance process. He also discusses how he structures his life and makes decisions related to career and family. This episode is sure to inspire deep thinking and practical life changes for all who listen.

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Josh Waitzkin

Josh Waitzkin, a former child chess prodigy popularized in the movie Searching for Bobby Fischer, is also a martial arts competitor and the author of The Art of Learning.

  • 00:00:00 Josh Waitzkin
  • 00:03:21 Chess, Competition & Performance
  • 00:10:50 Martial Arts, Tai Chi, Jiu-Jitsu, Foiling, Training Others
  • 00:14:41 Sponsors: Wealthfront & Our Place
  • 00:17:43 Theory of Mind, Chess, Strategy & Mindset
  • 00:26:39 Early Chess Training
  • 00:32:30 Failure & Change, Chess, Tension, Power of Empty Space
  • 00:43:22 Sponsors: AG1 & Joovv
  • 00:48:06 Grief, Competition Loss, Growth, Frustration Tolerance
  • 00:57:22 Arousal, Frame Rates, Intense Moments
  • 01:06:17 Frame Rates & Pupil Size; Firewalking, Training
  • 01:13:12 Sponsor: Function
  • 01:15:58 Stress & Recovery, Tools: Doing Less, Most Important Question (MIQ)
  • 01:23:24 Tool: Still Body, Active Mind; Shame, Strengthening Weaknesses
  • 01:32:02 Child Prodigies, Brittle; Chess Principles & Transfer to Life
  • 01:43:22 Sponsor: Eight Sleep
  • 01:44:48 Preconscious vs Postconscious
  • 01:52:02 Hypoxic Breathwork Caution & Drowning; Foiling, Fear, Postconscious
  • 01:57:05 Static vs Dynamic Mindset, High Performers
  • 02:05:48 Comebacks, Hunting Adversity, Living on Other Side of Pain, Tool: Cold Plunge
  • 02:19:20 Ego, Identity, Unbreakable Will
  • 02:29:18 Studying People; Chess, Computers; Science & AI; Ocean & Control
  • 02:40:37 Time, Future Direction, True to Self, Wounds
  • 02:51:07 Daily Routine, Individualization, Waking Up, Tool: MIQ Gap Analysis
  • 03:00:21 Tool: MIQ; Stuck Points, Distraction
  • 03:05:58 Reflective vs Stimulus-Response, Optimize Quality not Quantity
  • 03:14:12 Zero-Cost Support, YouTube, Spotify & Apple Follow & Reviews, Sponsors, YouTube Feedback, Social Media, Protocols Book, Neural Network Newsletter

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